Gloria begins the interview briefly talking about her great-great grandfather, Commodore Cornelius Vanderbilt, and his views on women as a segue into talking about her life, men, and self-esteem. In particular, Gloria discusses her relationship with her aunt, her mother, and her first husband, Pat DiCicco, the “Black Knight,” at age 17 and its impact on her self-esteem. After the commercial break, Gloria discusses her relationship with the “While Knight,” Leopold Stokowski, the intense battle for their souls, the impact he had on her work as a painter and her self-esteem. Gloria ends the interview briefly talking about her years in therapy and eventually marrying Wyatt Cooper.
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