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Joseph Lelyveld discusses his book, “Move Your Shadow.” He begins by explaining how he went to South Africa on several occasions while writing as a journalist for the New York Times. He talks about the Apartheid and the differences between how blacks and whites are treated. Lelyveld describes different tribes in Africa, and how they are bound by ethnic groupings. He predicts upcoming political regimes that could potentially take over Africa and names different leaders that would be good candidates. He ends the interview by discussing why he includes personal stories from people he met into his book, and talks about race relations.